140- Lala Lala 2 (& Grace). While Lillie (Lala Lala) is in Cincinnati to shoot a music video, she and Yoni and Yoni’s partner Grace sit down to talk in Yoni and Grace’s living room. They talk about crying, the effect of gender on showing emotion, tiny bangs, The Chasm and dead pop culture, Chicago vs. Cincinnati, struggling with live performance, self doubt, how money ruined music, and bad interviews. Go to Patreon.com/thewanderingwolf and pledge to support the podcast!