Episode 37- Barney Rubin (Yoni’s uncle) & Josiah Wolf (brother). Barney shows up in Cincinnati to record a rap song he wrote as a farewell speech of sorts/ tribute to his former boss and friend, Richard Holbrooke, at the state department where he held a position as senior advisor on Afghanistan and South Asia. The three bearded gents discuss the song, Barney’s experiences in and around South Asia, working in government, his current position as director of the Center on International Cooperation at NYU, Barney’s early life, and his passion for music, wine and food.